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. >>> into syria, violence spilled over the border leaving 17 people dead. richard engel reports syrians are struggling to deal with the blood shet. >> reporter: parts of syria that are controlled by the rebels, there is no talk at all to finding a peaceful solution. the trips and meetings of hillary clinton with the u.n. and her russian counterpart, there's no hope for a diplomatic solution. instead what the people talk about are the suffering of the people. this house was bombed by mistake. the people who lived here lived next to a rebel commander. now they're homeless. there is also tremendous economic difficulties here. the syrian currency is worth about half of what it was worth when the war began. a loaf of bread costs 20 times what it did just a few months ago. but despite all of this the rebels are making advances. they say they hope to soon control the city of aleppo, the country's commercial capital. after that, damascus. richard engel, nfc news. >>> this morning latin music fans around the world are lourng the death of jenny rivera. the 43-year-ol
. >>> into syria, violence spilled over the border leaving 17 people dead. richard engel reports syrians are struggling to deal with the blood shet. >> reporter: parts of syria that are controlled by the rebels, there is no talk at all to finding a peaceful solution. the trips and meetings of hillary clinton with the u.n. and her russian counterpart, there's no hope for a diplomatic solution. instead what the people talk about are the suffering of the people. this house was...
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his team are free after a dramatic firefight in syria where they had been kidnapped and held for five days. >> they kept us blindfolded, bound. we weren't physically beaten or tortured. a lot of psychological torture. they made us choose which one of says would be shot first and when we refused, there were mock shootings. >> we will have more on their harrowing escape coming up. >>> classes for other students are resuming in newtown for the first time since friday's deadly school massacre. as two more young victims are laid to rest today. in washington is the momentum for gun control finally building? house democratic leader nancy pelosi called for a ban on assault magazines like those used to kill the 27 victims in connecticut. >> why is it that somebody needs a magazine with 20 shots in it and have 40 lives at risk? >> we'll talk exclusively with nancy pelosi about what can be done to control guns. and, of course, the looming fiscal cliff. speaker boehner today turns to his plan b. >> our plan b would protect american taxpayers who make $1 million or less and have all of their curre
his team are free after a dramatic firefight in syria where they had been kidnapped and held for five days. >> they kept us blindfolded, bound. we weren't physically beaten or tortured. a lot of psychological torture. they made us choose which one of says would be shot first and when we refused, there were mock shootings. >> we will have more on their harrowing escape coming up. >>> classes for other students are resuming in newtown for the first time since friday's deadly...
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, where the syria military is now firing scud missiles at rebel forces in the north, almost thumbing its nose a little bit at the world community here. jim joins me now. it's as if essentially they've seen the line the world is drawing when it comes to chemical weapons and feel they can do almost anything else. >> u.s. officials said this is a clear sign the assad regime in damascus is becoming ever more desperate. this is the first time in a two-year war that the syrian military has used these scud missiles against the rebels. they fired six to eight of them into the north, presumably at rebel strongholds. at least two of them, there are reports, fell in neighborhoods. there are other signs that would make it appear anyway that the assad regime is in its final days. even the russians are saying publicly that they're growing more pessimistic that they could actually survive. and if they're saying that publicly, the russians have to be putting that into assad's ear. now, let's flip that on its head. u.s. intelligence today indicates that assad instead of looking for an exit is actuall
, where the syria military is now firing scud missiles at rebel forces in the north, almost thumbing its nose a little bit at the world community here. jim joins me now. it's as if essentially they've seen the line the world is drawing when it comes to chemical weapons and feel they can do almost anything else. >> u.s. officials said this is a clear sign the assad regime in damascus is becoming ever more desperate. this is the first time in a two-year war that the syrian military has used...
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when we look at syria, what is the next step? >> i think the next step is to wait for things to develop in syria. in egypt, where we played an active part or in libya, and then decided that wasn't particular good idea, the results were not what we had expected. in addition to that, we're not the only players in syria. they said we won't like the results if you get involved appeared topple assad. >> worse or than better for us there? >> i think so. don't forget that syria is a client of russia. whatever else you say about putin, and there's plenty bad you can say, he brought up something interesting last week. he said, look, you guys, go ahead and have an influence on the outcome. you're not going to like the outcome. when the baath party goes inside syria, you'll have muslim -- the best thing for you is to just stay away. so far we have stayed away. >> medal of honor recipient colonel jack jacobs and msnbc analyst. thank you. >>> while the fiscal cliff has reigning in, some are it's report that had contributions of up 63% for the
when we look at syria, what is the next step? >> i think the next step is to wait for things to develop in syria. in egypt, where we played an active part or in libya, and then decided that wasn't particular good idea, the results were not what we had expected. in addition to that, we're not the only players in syria. they said we won't like the results if you get involved appeared topple assad. >> worse or than better for us there? >> i think so. don't forget that syria is a...
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are these individuals from syria or is this conflict attracting militants from overseas? >> reporter: according to western intelligence officials, according to syrians and personally speaking from individuals i have spoken to over the course of covering this conflict, it is definitely attracting people from the region and overseas. i personally have met with rebel fighters that have come from libya, even some from egypt who have wanted to go to syria to fight. they see this as a larger ideological conflict. the government is a staunchly secular one. they believe syria is engaged in what they consider a jihad or a holy war, and they're using that to rally muslims from all around the world to come and join the fight. western intelligence sources and others have reported on the participation of fighters from the caucuses, central asia, as well as from iraq and other neighboring countries. there's no doubt it is galvanizing many fighters to come and join what they say is a religious fight against secularism. >> we've heard talk of an increasingly desperate syrian government c
are these individuals from syria or is this conflict attracting militants from overseas? >> reporter: according to western intelligence officials, according to syrians and personally speaking from individuals i have spoken to over the course of covering this conflict, it is definitely attracting people from the region and overseas. i personally have met with rebel fighters that have come from libya, even some from egypt who have wanted to go to syria to fight. they see this as a larger...
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syria bomb rebels today. secretary clinton says that country is considering using chemical weapons. >> this is a red line for the united states. i'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we would do in the event of credible evidence. >> joining me now is former state department egypt officer joel reuben. good to have you here. let's start with that red line where syria is right now. it's estimated more than 40,000 people have been killed in this 20-month-old revolve against the government. these new reports suggesting the fresh activity at syrian chemical weapons depots. earlier this year the president singled out that threat posed by chemical weapons as a cause for greater u.s. involvement. now secretary clinton giving this warning. where do you see this headed? >> this is a very overt declaration by the secretary. it's been estimated it would take about 75,000 troops to secure these chemical weapon sites if they are used. syria has never acknowledged having them but acknowledged that when responding
syria bomb rebels today. secretary clinton says that country is considering using chemical weapons. >> this is a red line for the united states. i'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we would do in the event of credible evidence. >> joining me now is former state department egypt officer joel reuben. good to have you here. let's start with that red line where syria is right now. it's estimated more than 40,000 people have been killed in this 20-month-old revolve against...
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and richard engel's dramatic escape from captivity in syria in his own words. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make yr mark with ink from chase. >>> have you joined the "politicsnation" conversation on facebook yet? we hope you will. this photo of a newtown, connecticut, student smiling on his way back to school was inspiring a lot of folks today. mary says this shows how brave they are and how loved and secure they feel. good job, parents and community. buddy says that's why we have to provide a world that keeps them safe. we'll have more on what's being done to help keep them safe coming up next. but first we wanted to hear what you think on this issue or anything else. please head over to facebook and search "politicsnation" and like us to join the conversation that k
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syria looks -- syria would be so much worse. you saw the break-up of iraq after the united states invasion in 2003. syria would be that times 10. and there's a lot of worry about what are you going to do with that? you have a worry about the slaughter of the allies in the mountains. you have to worry about just this whole break-up and who would govern this region that is so, so -- this country that is so critical for the whole region. but i do think, though, that chemical weapons would be sort of -- that -- i think for the obama administration, that's a line that they would have trouble defending their passivity so far if assad crossed. that's a hard one. it's hard for me to imagine them not doing anything. >> but given that they haven't really done very much over the past 21 months, and they haven't done very much at all, it's not implausible that they would not do the clar tiff thing of invading or stopping the use of chemical weapons. it's a5(y little solace that now they are being bombed with chemical weapons, president obam
syria looks -- syria would be so much worse. you saw the break-up of iraq after the united states invasion in 2003. syria would be that times 10. and there's a lot of worry about what are you going to do with that? you have a worry about the slaughter of the allies in the mountains. you have to worry about just this whole break-up and who would govern this region that is so, so -- this country that is so critical for the whole region. but i do think, though, that chemical weapons would be sort...
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this week for the obama administration and that was in syria. the u.s. stepped up missile defense along syria's border with turkey, hoping to stave off the potential use of chemical weapons against anti-assad rebels. for the first time the u.s. is formally recognizing rebels' attempt to overthrow president assad and we are at the end game, or are we? martha? >> i think we're closer then we have ever been certainly. i think even two weeks ago there were a lot of people saying this could be months and months and months. we have no idea when this will end. but i think if you look at where those rebels are advancing in damas cass, i think it really could end there. you've got suburbs. you're seeing this extraordinary video coming out of damascus with the suburbs virtually on fire. the thing i think is most frightening about this is everybody, the rebels, regime, everybody is just trying -- destroying everything in their path. then you get into the terrible thing with retribution. you have rebels advancing. you have regime fighting back. but i think asan has
this week for the obama administration and that was in syria. the u.s. stepped up missile defense along syria's border with turkey, hoping to stave off the potential use of chemical weapons against anti-assad rebels. for the first time the u.s. is formally recognizing rebels' attempt to overthrow president assad and we are at the end game, or are we? martha? >> i think we're closer then we have ever been certainly. i think even two weeks ago there were a lot of people saying this could be...
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there's certainly risks where we are with respect to syria. i would not close the door completely to some kind of an agreement whereby president assad could move to another country and the reason i say that is, that the dangers of an imploding syria, of the complete implosion of the state, are really serious and contrary to the national security interests of the united states. it's in our security interests to be able to get a transition that is controlled and that is negotiated and that is orderly. the alternative to that is you could have 200,000, 500,000 people killed and so i do not want to lock myself into nor do i think our nation should lock ourselves into, a complete refusal to create the dynamic where we can avoid that kind of death and destruction and where we will not serve our greater national security interests. and therefore, i want to see us push rapidly towards the negotiation. i think it can happen. i also believe that assad's regime is in its final months. i don't know if it will be three or six. i can't it tell you the numbe
there's certainly risks where we are with respect to syria. i would not close the door completely to some kind of an agreement whereby president assad could move to another country and the reason i say that is, that the dangers of an imploding syria, of the complete implosion of the state, are really serious and contrary to the national security interests of the united states. it's in our security interests to be able to get a transition that is controlled and that is negotiated and that is...
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plus, mayhem in the middle east as worries grow that syria may use chemical weapons and egypt moves closer to civil war. can the u.s. stay on the sidelines much longer? and a military judge moved from the trial of ahsan after demanding the army major shave. did the order show bias? >> ♪ >> welcome to the journal, he editorial report. little progress this week in evidence to avoid january's looming tax and spending cuts commonly known as the fiscal cliff. despite a call between president obama and john boehner, the two sides appear to be no closer to a compromise. are republicans working on the scenes on a plan b? wall street journal columnist, dan henninger and kim strassel. you have bean working the phones, is there something going on between speaker boehner and the president? >> no, i think that they are nowhere and it's because the president is refusing to budge at all on the top toks ratestopx rates and we'll go off the cliff if the republicans don't acreed to that demand. so we're still at a stand still. >> paul: kim, why is the president so insistent on increasing tax rates? boehne
plus, mayhem in the middle east as worries grow that syria may use chemical weapons and egypt moves closer to civil war. can the u.s. stay on the sidelines much longer? and a military judge moved from the trial of ahsan after demanding the army major shave. did the order show bias? >> ♪ >> welcome to the journal, he editorial report. little progress this week in evidence to avoid january's looming tax and spending cuts commonly known as the fiscal cliff. despite a call between...
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i would say -- i mean i think the thing i'm most struck by is syria. it just seems to me, you have the -- what looks likes the start of assad preparing the possibility of using chemical weapons as nbc reported yesterday. what do we do? what can we do? senator clinton -- secretary clinton meeting with russia, what can we do and what's the next step if they don't listen. >> it's a complex world the president is going to lead in. >> can i enter, you cover these issues all the time and did a lead story on nightly news on this topic. the question fors the president is ultimately what do you do when your foreign policy has been premised on bringing american troops home, at a time when american power and influence is needed particularly in the middle east, but there are no easy answers. this i think is what sort of calls out for an obama doctrine in a second term. he doesn't seem to have one at the moment which is a big issue. >> and doesn't have a foreign policy team yet. he's still wrestling with those decisions. more on that to come. david gregory, thank y
i would say -- i mean i think the thing i'm most struck by is syria. it just seems to me, you have the -- what looks likes the start of assad preparing the possibility of using chemical weapons as nbc reported yesterday. what do we do? what can we do? senator clinton -- secretary clinton meeting with russia, what can we do and what's the next step if they don't listen. >> it's a complex world the president is going to lead in. >> can i enter, you cover these issues all the time and...
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pentagon sources tell nbc news that syria is preparing chemical weapons for the possible use against the military people in the form of aerial bombs. jim miklaszewski reports. >> reporter: as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned increasingly desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military loaded the precursor chemicals for sarn nerve gas into aerial bombs. that could be dropped from dozens of syrian fighter bombers. this week u.s. intelligence detected a flurry of activity at chemical weapons sites like this one. while u.s. officials confirm the precursor chemicals are loaded, they must still be mixed together to create the deadly sarin gas. the development shook the world. president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton issued strong warnings to syria's president assad that there would be serious consequences if he used chemical weapons. >> it's the point of no return. they're going to lose any sort of backing that they had from the chinese and russians in terms of blocking the u.n. vote. and it's my
pentagon sources tell nbc news that syria is preparing chemical weapons for the possible use against the military people in the form of aerial bombs. jim miklaszewski reports. >> reporter: as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned increasingly desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military loaded the precursor chemicals for sarn nerve gas into aerial bombs. that could be dropped from dozens of syrian fighter...
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ambassador, if i could move you to syria. we learned today that syria is launching skud missiles on their own people. the president had this to say. take a listen. >> we've made a decision that the syrian opposition coalition is now inclusive enough, is reflective and representative enough of the syrian population that we consider them the legitimate representative of the syrian people in opposition to the assad regime. >> so ambassador, how does america's afact change in practice? >> it signals to the other countries that have recognized this syrian coalition that it's time to begin providing more effective weaponry we have been unable to do. so britain, france allies are already doing that. and it shows to the effect our diplomacy has been effective to help this coalition which is now meeting in morocco under the friends of syria arrangement. but the most important thing here is while this is diplomatic recognition, martin, the fighting drags on. and the humanitarian crisis is abysmal. and that's the real story here. >> i a
ambassador, if i could move you to syria. we learned today that syria is launching skud missiles on their own people. the president had this to say. take a listen. >> we've made a decision that the syrian opposition coalition is now inclusive enough, is reflective and representative enough of the syrian population that we consider them the legitimate representative of the syrian people in opposition to the assad regime. >> so ambassador, how does america's afact change in practice?...
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. >>> syria on the bring. secretary of state hillary clinton holds emergency talks with russia as u.s. officials confirm reports that the syrian military is prepared to launch chemical weapons against its own people. >> we've made it very clear what our position is with respect to chemical weapons and i think we will discuss that and many other aspects. >> the whole world is watching. the whole world is watching very closely. and the president of the united states has made very clear that there will be consequences. >> plus, sharp criticism from afghan president karzai. the exclusive nbc interview. why he says the u.s. is partly to blame for the growing instability in his country. >>> and the duchess of cambridge leaves the hospital after being treated for acute morning sickness. her royal father-in-law couldn't be happier. >> i'm not a radio station? >> grandfather, that's splendid. that's great she's getting better. >> good day, i'm chris cillizza in for andrea mitchell live in washington. behind the bluster
. >>> syria on the bring. secretary of state hillary clinton holds emergency talks with russia as u.s. officials confirm reports that the syrian military is prepared to launch chemical weapons against its own people. >> we've made it very clear what our position is with respect to chemical weapons and i think we will discuss that and many other aspects. >> the whole world is watching. the whole world is watching very closely. and the president of the united states has made...
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. >>> now to the ongoing crisis in syria. the civil war now spilling over the border into lebanon where at least 17 people were killed in recent clashes between supporters and opponents of president assad. this as syrian rebels continue to make advances continuing much of the countryside and the open road. richard engel amazingly made his way inside syria and filed this report just outside of the nation's largest city, aleppo. >> reporter: as this conflict drags on the people are suffering, but also showing a tremendous amount of resilience. this house was bombed by mistake. the people who lived here lived next to a rebel commander. now they're homeless. aside from the damage, and there is extensive damage in this part of syria just on the outskirts of the city of aleppo, there are also tremendous economic difficulties. the syrian currency is now worth about half of what it was worth before this war started. a loaf of bread costs 20 times more than it did just a few months ago. fuel is in very short supply, and if you can fin
. >>> now to the ongoing crisis in syria. the civil war now spilling over the border into lebanon where at least 17 people were killed in recent clashes between supporters and opponents of president assad. this as syrian rebels continue to make advances continuing much of the countryside and the open road. richard engel amazingly made his way inside syria and filed this report just outside of the nation's largest city, aleppo. >> reporter: as this conflict drags on the people are...
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in the middle east the situation in syria turns from serious to scary. concerns over chemical weapons has secretary clinton conferring with her russian counterpart today to try to avoid deadly developments. >>> an nbc news exclusive, afghanistan's president hamid karzai talks about his country's future and ongoing insecurity and blames the taliban of course. guess who else? nato and the united states. good morning from washington. it's thursday, december 6th, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. let's get right to my first reads of the morning. today's fiscal cliff photo op of the day is going to be in suburban northern virginia when the president will remind the public yet again that without a budget deal taxes will go up on 100% of americans at the end of the year. he'll visit the home of a middle class family who shared their story through the white house's hash tag my 2k social media campaign. >>> with talks and a public stalemate on wednesday the president called speaker boehner their first conversation of the week. the two sides agree
in the middle east the situation in syria turns from serious to scary. concerns over chemical weapons has secretary clinton conferring with her russian counterpart today to try to avoid deadly developments. >>> an nbc news exclusive, afghanistan's president hamid karzai talks about his country's future and ongoing insecurity and blames the taliban of course. guess who else? nato and the united states. good morning from washington. it's thursday, december 6th, 2012. this is "the...
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reports of chemical weapons in syria. let's get started with what promises to be a lively discussion. abbe huntsman, and a host of huff posts live. and welcome to you all. let's start with guns and the fallout of the murder and suicide of jovan bellcher and his girlfriend. bob costas of nbc spoke out about this. let's watch what he said tonight. >> i believe that there should be more comprehensive and effective controls on the sale of guns. roughly 40% of the guns purchased in this country do not require a background check for purchasing. i don't see any reason why someone should be able to purchase military style or body armor or weapons. only the police and the military should have that. >> let's start off. you've been giving me a holler on twitter about this. you are a big gun fan. explain to me why bob costas is wrong? >> it boils down to the ability to protect yourself, piers. when you look at what is what happening in syria with the threat of chemical weapons. the only reason they're not going to use it is because s
reports of chemical weapons in syria. let's get started with what promises to be a lively discussion. abbe huntsman, and a host of huff posts live. and welcome to you all. let's start with guns and the fallout of the murder and suicide of jovan bellcher and his girlfriend. bob costas of nbc spoke out about this. let's watch what he said tonight. >> i believe that there should be more comprehensive and effective controls on the sale of guns. roughly 40% of the guns purchased in this...
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. >>> and a real scare in syria turns into a real happy ending. tonight we'll tell you how nbc's richard engel escaped from his kidnappers. >> i'm very happy that we're here this morning. >> thanks for watching. it may be a rare moment in gun history, but the nation is focused on gun control following the massacre in connecticut. the national rifle association finally broke its silence on the newtown shooting. a statement released today by the organization said, in part, the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. the language is similar to president obama's call for meaningful action, but contribution from the nra remains to be seen. but several republican politicians are already headed in the direction of change. michigan governor rick snyder saw republicans in his state legislature pass a bill to allow guns in schools and day care centers. the bill was passed one day before the tragedy in newtown, connecticut. today the republican governor vetoed the bill. according to the detroit news, snyd
. >>> and a real scare in syria turns into a real happy ending. tonight we'll tell you how nbc's richard engel escaped from his kidnappers. >> i'm very happy that we're here this morning. >> thanks for watching. it may be a rare moment in gun history, but the nation is focused on gun control following the massacre in connecticut. the national rifle association finally broke its silence on the newtown shooting. a statement released today by the organization said, in part,...
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almost 40,000 people have died in syria already. but the use of chemical weapons and poison gas, i think the fa val valueties would be very much greater. it does kind of cross a line. these aren't judgments that you can make in any particularly scientific way. but i think what your administration, part of the international community is signaling to the president is if you cross that line, it will be a sharp and strong reaction. >> and those were tough words coming from president obama yesterday from secretary hillary clinton from the nato secretary general today in brussels. is that enough to prevent using poison gas or chemical warfare? or just threats, shall we say? is there something else tangibly the international community should be doing? >> well, it's important that i'm sure this is being conveyed in many different ways, too. it's important that he understands that that response is going to be emphatic. so it won't be, in other words, that we issue a strong statement. that ll be some action that will follow. look, i think he
almost 40,000 people have died in syria already. but the use of chemical weapons and poison gas, i think the fa val valueties would be very much greater. it does kind of cross a line. these aren't judgments that you can make in any particularly scientific way. but i think what your administration, part of the international community is signaling to the president is if you cross that line, it will be a sharp and strong reaction. >> and those were tough words coming from president obama...
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it says after being kidnapped and held for nearly five days inside syria by an unknown group, richard engel and his production crew have been freed and unharmed. >> here is your first look at scrambled politics. as anti-gun advocates rallied, the nra took down its facebook page. the group has not commented on the school shootings in connecticut. >>> bill chummily is proposing a bill that would criminalize implementation of barack obama's 2010 health care law. >>> senator john kerry of massachusetts suspected to be president obama's choice to replace secretary of state hillary clinton, but because of the connecticut shootings the announcement will be delayed until later this week. >>> some top newspapers are complaining about the mitt romney campaign sending them bills for reporters covering the campaign. they say they were egregious charges for meals and $745 for a vice presidential debate viewing party. >>> and former italian prime minister silvia berlusconi told a tv interviewer that he's engaged to be married. that's your morning dish of scrambled politics. >>> now for a look at th
it says after being kidnapped and held for nearly five days inside syria by an unknown group, richard engel and his production crew have been freed and unharmed. >> here is your first look at scrambled politics. as anti-gun advocates rallied, the nra took down its facebook page. the group has not commented on the school shootings in connecticut. >>> bill chummily is proposing a bill that would criminalize implementation of barack obama's 2010 health care law. >>> senator...
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show this, our colleague, richard engle and his crew are safe this morning after escaping gunmen in syria. they were held for five days before they were freed following a gun fight between the kidnappers and rebel forces in syria. they appeared on the "today" show this morning just hours after they release. here is a bit of the story. >> we were driving in syria about five days ago in wa we thought was a rebel-controlled area. we were with some of the rebels. and as we were moving down the road, a group of gunmen just literally jumped ott of the trees and bushes on the side of the road. there were probably 15 gunmen. they were wearing ski masks. they were heavily armed. they dragged ussous of the car. they had a container truck positioned waiting by the side of the road. they put us into that container truck. we were with some gun men, some rebels who were escorting us. they executed one of them on the spot. then they took us to a series of safe houses and interrogation places. and they kept us blindfolded, bound. we weren't physically beaten or tortured. it was a lot of psychological tor
show this, our colleague, richard engle and his crew are safe this morning after escaping gunmen in syria. they were held for five days before they were freed following a gun fight between the kidnappers and rebel forces in syria. they appeared on the "today" show this morning just hours after they release. here is a bit of the story. >> we were driving in syria about five days ago in wa we thought was a rebel-controlled area. we were with some of the rebels. and as we were...
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>> yeah, i mean, it's -- >> syria is the center of the middle east. if this thing becomes a failed state with gases like sarin, if al qaeda like groups take it over. it will be a source of instability for the next couple decades, something has to be done now. it's late. but this is -- you can't play around with this any more. >> bob baer and peter brooks, thank you. nice to have you with us this evening. >>> just 29 days and counting from the fiscal cliff, the speaker of the house john boehner offers up his own plan today. and the white house has already offered up their response. >>> a little later, a photo in the trayvon martin case has been released in color. we'll show it to you. a new heir to the british thrown is on its way. it's a baby bonanza. one is for a clean, wedomestic energy future that puts us in control. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy development comes with some risk, we're committed to safely and res
>> yeah, i mean, it's -- >> syria is the center of the middle east. if this thing becomes a failed state with gases like sarin, if al qaeda like groups take it over. it will be a source of instability for the next couple decades, something has to be done now. it's late. but this is -- you can't play around with this any more. >> bob baer and peter brooks, thank you. nice to have you with us this evening. >>> just 29 days and counting from the fiscal cliff, the speaker...
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lou: not silent on syria. we heard these rumblings out of the adminisation and the foreign policy apparatus of this government for 15 months saying assad must go. doing absolutely nothing. 40,000 peopl murdered, and then, unbelievably, the secretary of state today saying that this, you know, the point of which we reach some sort of resolution depends on how many people the assad regimements to kill. are you kidding me? >> theyon't know what to do. on this, lou, i have to defend -he administration. it's hard to know what to do in a situation whichs now as chaotic as syria. i mean, look -- lou: should we only assign foreign policy masteters in the state department and white house then easy, simple tasks they are resolve? >> no, i just think there's some foreign policy challenges more complex than others, and this is a hard one. we armed the libyans and know some of those weapons went to the very people blowing up american embassies and targets. lou: radicals, extremists, terrorists. the administration will not u
lou: not silent on syria. we heard these rumblings out of the adminisation and the foreign policy apparatus of this government for 15 months saying assad must go. doing absolutely nothing. 40,000 peopl murdered, and then, unbelievably, the secretary of state today saying that this, you know, the point of which we reach some sort of resolution depends on how many people the assad regimements to kill. are you kidding me? >> theyon't know what to do. on this, lou, i have to defend -he...
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. >>> we go now from our own problems with the fiscal cliff in this country to syria being on the brink. secretary of defense leon panetta who is in kuwait today meeting with officials and visiting troops has this to say about syria's escalating crisis. >> continue to make clear to them that they should not, under any means, make use of these chemical weapons against their own population, that that would -- that would producer is use consequences. >> joining me now in studio is retired u.s. army general. it's great to see you and in person, no less. but just so everybody can make that out because i know it was hard for people to hear the secretary there saying we continue to make clear to them they should not under any means make use of these chemical weapons against their own population, that would producer is use consequences. when he's talking about serious consequences what does that mean to the u.s., the stake, the investment we would make militarily. >> i'm sure one thing we're convinced of is that we don't want to take military action to syria. it's a bad idea to commit either na
. >>> we go now from our own problems with the fiscal cliff in this country to syria being on the brink. secretary of defense leon panetta who is in kuwait today meeting with officials and visiting troops has this to say about syria's escalating crisis. >> continue to make clear to them that they should not, under any means, make use of these chemical weapons against their own population, that that would -- that would producer is use consequences. >> joining me now in...
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in syria. the u.s. knows the. this is a game being played by politics. mr. obama is not speak being to assad. assad is beyond hearing. he's speaking to moscow. don't let this happen. he's talking directly to putin. >> let me go back to your other fascinating point opinion you say back in 2003, of course this was the weapons of mass destruction that president bush and the intelligence agencies around the world never were able to discover. you're saying, john, that the russians carted or flew those wmds, these were chemical weapons of mass destruction that the russians carted those wmds from iraq to syria but, in fact, there were wmds in iraq all along. . it to be very careful. russians cooperated in the transfer of major weapon systems. the republican guards, the ability to launch the missiles and the wmd and to marry the war head with the missiles. the russians supervised all of that for saddam hussein. the night of april 5th two convoys left baghdad one with the russian ambassador headed to da
in syria. the u.s. knows the. this is a game being played by politics. mr. obama is not speak being to assad. assad is beyond hearing. he's speaking to moscow. don't let this happen. he's talking directly to putin. >> let me go back to your other fascinating point opinion you say back in 2003, of course this was the weapons of mass destruction that president bush and the intelligence agencies around the world never were able to discover. you're saying, john, that the russians carted or...
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egiant, syria, lib yeah. i am not suggesting that the white house is responsible for that but i am subjecting a smart person could ask penetrating questions of the efect of the policy, none of which born fruit to help us. she doesn't want to deal with that. at some point, she should have to. the left says susan rice thing was a sideshow. they are kind of right. she is the secretary of state. she is responsible. >> bret: that is it for the panel but stay tuned to see an effort at handling touchy questions. this holiday, share everything. share "not even close." share "you owe me..." share "just right." the share everything plan. shareable data across 10 devices with unlimited talk and text. hurry in for a droid razr m by motorola for $49.99. i got your campbell's chunky soup. mom? who's mom? i'm the giants mascot. the giants don't have a mascot! ohhh! eat up! new jammin jerk chicken soup has tasty pieces of chicken with rice and beans. hmmm. for giant hunger! thanks mom! see ya! whoaa...oops! mom? i'm ok. gran
egiant, syria, lib yeah. i am not suggesting that the white house is responsible for that but i am subjecting a smart person could ask penetrating questions of the efect of the policy, none of which born fruit to help us. she doesn't want to deal with that. at some point, she should have to. the left says susan rice thing was a sideshow. they are kind of right. she is the secretary of state. she is responsible. >> bret: that is it for the panel but stay tuned to see an effort at handling...